Field note
Contractor Overhead and Profit: "Three Trades" Isn't the Test
Two appellate courts, four sourced pages of policy language, and no trade count anywhere in them.
Section 5(e) of the Farmers homeowners policy that reached the Pennsylvania Supreme Court in August 2020 runs about sixty words, and the number of trades on the job appears in none of them. What the clause turns on instead is whether "it is reasonably likely that the services of a general contractor will be required to manage, supervise and coordinate the repairs."1
Ask a room of adjusters when a carrier owes general contractor overhead and profit and most will answer with a number: three or more trades on the scope and the ten-and-ten goes in. As desk practice the count is real. Carrier estimating guidelines lean on it because it resolves fast, and a scope carrying a roofer, a drywall crew and an HVAC sub usually does need somebody sequencing them.
The count is a proxy. The two appellate courts that have looked hardest at O&P in the last fifteen years did not use it.
What the courts actually asked
Florida's Supreme Court quashed the Third District in Trinidad v. Florida Peninsula on July 3, 2013, holding that overhead and profit fall inside an actual cash value payment "where the insured is reasonably likely to need a general contractor for repairs."2 No trade threshold appears in the opinion.

Pennsylvania came out the other way in Kurach, 4-3, for a reason unrelated to how many trades the repair needed.1 Truck Insurance Exchange won because its policy named actual cash value and carved it out: general contractor fees go into the estimate when reasonably likely, but "actual cash value settlements will not include estimated general contractor fees or charges for general contractor's services unless and until you actually incur and pay such fees and charges."1 The policyholders had water losses over $2,500 and had not repaired. Having not repaired, they had not incurred.
So one policyholder recovered O&P on an unrepaired house and one did not, and the trade count on both files was never in issue.
| The argument | What backs it | What you have to show |
|---|---|---|
| Three or more trades are on the scope | Desk and estimating convention. Neither Trinidad nor Kurach mentions a trade count. | Nothing either court asked for. |
| A general contractor is reasonably likely to be required | Trinidad (Fla. 2013), and the estimating half of the Kurach policy uses the same wording. | Sequencing, supervision and coordination the subs cannot do for themselves. |
| Your ACV clause carries no incur-first carve-out | Kurach (Pa. 2020) turned on that one sentence. | The loss-settlement page, quoted. |
Where state law overrides the clause
The Kurach carve-out closes on a condition most readers skim. General contractor fees stay out of ACV "unless the law of your state requires such fees and charges be paid with the actual cash value settlement."1 By its own wording the clause steps aside for the state.
Texas is where that shows up most plainly. The bulletin that settled the question there came out of a live dispute rather than an academic one: insurers had read the loss-settlement provision of the Texas Standard Homeowner's Policy Form B to let them subtract contractor's overhead and profit on top of depreciation, and two class actions followed. The Department of Insurance told every property and casualty carrier in the state on June 12, 1998 that deducting prospective contractors' overhead and profit from replacement cost when calculating actual cash value is improper, not a reasonable reading of the policy language, and unfair to insureds.3 The department restated that position for carriers on September 29, 2008.4 So the sentence that let a carrier keep O&P in Pennsylvania reads differently against a Texas file, and what moves it there is the regulator's published position, not a count of trades. Texas adjusters already know how much turns on the estimate itself, which is the fight appraisal panels keep landing in.
None of which makes the trade count useless at the desk. It remains the quickest signal that a coordinating contractor belongs on the file, and a carrier working to its own guidelines may concede O&P the moment the scope crosses three. A court reviews something else, so a file built only on the count has nothing underneath it when the carrier declines. The documentation that survives is the ordinary kind: the scope, the sequencing, and the room-by-room record of what the repair actually requires. Florida adjusters running a declared-event file are building most of it anyway.
Does a carrier owe overhead and profit if three trades are on the estimate?
It depends on the policy, not the count. Trinidad and Kurach both decided O&P without reference to a trade threshold. The trade count is an estimating convention that many carriers follow, so it can settle a file at the desk, but it is not the standard a court applies.
Can a carrier withhold O&P from an ACV payment before repairs start?
Yes, where the policy says so. Kurach v. Truck Insurance Exchange upheld a clause excluding general contractor fees from ACV settlements unless and until the insured actually incurs and pays them.
Does that clause apply in every state?
No. The same clause defers to state law that requires the fees be paid with the actual cash value settlement, so its effect changes with the jurisdiction.
What is the Texas position on deducting O&P from actual cash value?
The Texas Department of Insurance stated in Commissioner's Bulletin B-0045-98 that deducting prospective contractors' overhead and profit in determining ACV under a replacement cost policy is improper and unfair to insureds, and reaffirmed it in B-0068-08 in 2008.
What should a public adjuster document to support O&P?
Whether a general contractor is reasonably likely to be required: the number and interdependence of trades, the sequencing between them, and the supervision the subcontractors cannot supply themselves. Quote the loss-settlement clause alongside it.
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